Both Zelaya and Micheletti seem to be in the wrong here. What Zelaya was trying to do, change the constitution, is illegal. Michelleti came to power illegal, not through an election but the coup de etat. It dosen't matter who's right wing and who's leftist, both performed dictator-like (illegal) moves and neither should be eligible to rule after this term is over.
I believe that human behavior dictates our actions. The U.S interest, is to have Chavez and Zeleya's power diminished and gone. Zeleya clearly wants the constitution changed for his own benefit, even though he is claiming it would not affect his president term. Why would a man extend the term limit if he was not going to use it himself? what incentive could he possibly have to extend the term limit, unless he was going to use it himself somehow or retain power by creating loopholes in the constitution and manipulating laws such as Putin did in order to be the legitimate power. As for Michelleti, he clearly saw that Zeleya would have been successful in the referendum, acting on his self interest and supported the ousting of Zeleya in order to gain his power. The main point is people lose sight that self human interest and incentives play a big role in their decision making. I just watched chavez's interview on Larry King, and he brought up very valid points. One of his points was calling out the U.S on its nuclear arsenal and international terrorism as King was asking him about his nuclear ambitions. Chavez replied " the U.S has a large amount of nuclear arms, why does it not destroy them. Also, the U.S was the only nation to use its nuclear arms". Calling the U.S a hypocritical nation demanding policy from others and not being accountable for their own actions.
It is of interest to note that the interim government, headed by micheletti, attempted pass a "decree alloweing the government to shut down broadcasters and ban unauthorized public meetings, and let the police detain suspects without warrants." (new york times, 9/29/09) This is not surprising, what comes as a real surprise is the fact that the honduran congress refused to allow these restrictions to take effect. Micheletti publicly apologized. Apparently, not all vestige of human rights have been abandoned in the near dictatorial status of the interim government of Honduras.
Constitutions are old, valuable documents, but nonetheless old! Serving one term may not be enough for Zelaya to execute his plan on the country.In the United States presidents are allowed 2 terms of service, the people of Nicaragua should be able to at least UPGRADE, not change, their constitution, it should be an option. With the change in society, and the complications that have arisendue to foreign relations, more time aloted to a president's term isnt a bad thing. And although people beleive that Zelaya should not go back to office because of what he will do during the remainder of the term, it is still HIS TIME and he is ENTITLED to it.
The coup of president Zelaya in Honduras and Micheletti's consequent military regime brings to question, for me, what an acceptable dictatorship is in the eyes of Western society? Some dictatorships are,obviously, allowed to exist and are sometime instituted in opposition to an expected dictatorship. Micheletti currently is running a military dictatorship. He deprives his citizens of basic necessities to secure his power, he is subject to intense paranoia in a see of Zelaya supporters and now in control of power he seems unwilling to give it up.The CIA seems to have a form of dictatorship, the head of which can rule for multiple presidential terms, and in light of recent events, can seemingly act without President Obama's knowledge. One must ask why these forms of dictatorship are accepted by the leaders of "society" while a leader who is supported and elected by its populace is deemed as a threat?
Honestly I believe that Zelaya is a threat because everything is happening in Honduras because people are rioting against him coming back to power. Zelaya is actually craving for more power thats why he is trying to extend his power. Zelaya has been recognized as a dictator and people fear him in power again. Why would we give a man more power and a longer term so he can have a better chance to rule and hold a absolute monarchy in Honduras. I believe that Zelaya should not become president because he is the reason that people are dying right now in Honduras so why would they put a leader in power that the people hate and will riot against his every move. Zelaya sounds like he is in his beginning stage becoming like the Dominican dictator Trujillo.
As an American idealist would say, and Obama would agree, Zelaya should be in power because indeed he was elected democratically. Yet is the actions taken by Zelaya that have me concerned in thinking that his coming back to power would make things in Honduras worse. For example, as mentioned in class, Zelaya said that he was not trying to be re-elected instead he was just trying to change the constitution. But every rational individual would know that once a person has power they would want to obtain that power for as long as possible. Being that in Honduras you could only be elected once and last five years in that term, it is easy for someone to be tempted to wanting to have more power. Although I believe that Zelaya’s coming back to power, isn’t the best resolution I don’t think that Micheletti would be much of a better choice either. Apparently, there are many that are against Micheletti and believe that his position in power would only be firmer steps towards socialism. The best resolution is that Honduras together as a nation decides what is better for them. In history, they have never protested and they have been a tolerant country, and this wouldn’t be the time to change history. As Oscar David reiterated, “Un país unido jamas sera vencido”, (A country united will never be divided), things should stay that way.
In Honduras people are rioting and tearing down stores and shops as we seen in the video because they fear Zelaya as a dictator and don’t want to see him in power. Zelaya is view as a dictator and his actions also leads us to believe that as he wants to extend his term limit to gain more power. I pose the question of how do the people fear Zelaya coming back in power if they are the ones who are electing him into power?
Sometimes even the possible could get done. For example, who would have thought that an African American man would be the president of the United States. Zelaya, who is not willing to give up his presidency though it is illegal for him to stay more than 5 years in power, is proving that sometimes the impossible is better. After reading a couple of articles and taking on different points of view, it is clear that people want Zelaya in power. Supporters of Zelaya such as Obama and Chavez, feel that since Zelaya was voted democratically he should continues his term in office. The people of Honduras are also in support of Zelaya and so this makes me think. Here in the United States everyone was in favor for President Obama and look how much great things he has done and so since the people of Honduras are mostly in favor of Zelaya should this be good thing? Although Honduras has been a tolerant country, maybe it is time for a change but I am unsure of Micheletti is the answer to the change it needs.
As of today Honduras is a problem to the community because of what's been happening over there. Like the video we saw in class of the riots and all of the disturbance there was with the people of Honduras because they didnt want to see Zelaya take the lead of a dictor which is very explainable because the people have opinions also. But at the same time if he was elected then why would he want to extend his time when its already time to choose another dictator?
Zelaya wanted to change the constitution but that does not mean he would run for president again. I think he, in a way, is working towards becoming a dictator because we will never know what would have happened. Micheletti seems to want to protect Honduras, but he might just want to ensure his spot in power. Both people are in the wrong but after watching the videos and discussing the articles, I want to keep up with the current events going on in the world especially with our country. It's kind of shady that Zelaya's plane refueled on a US base before departure and Obama knew nothing about it. We have to be aware of things like this because nothing has happened like this in a long time. I want to learn more about the right wing and left wing movements. This event can shake the world up.
Zelaya rightfully became president of Honduras in contrast to Micheletti coup de etat. Zelaya wants to change the constitution and many people are afraid that this could prove harmful to Honduras and other nations around it. However, I feel Honduras is in need of change and Zelaya is the man to appoint. Due to the fact that society in gerneral is afraid of change it is understandable why alot of people oppose his potential insurrection as president. Honduras presently is at a state of turmoil as discussed in the articles we read in class and the youtube videos of widescale rioters. Lastly it is amongst the poorest nations in America. Honduras is in need of a new constitution and Zelaya is the man to do it.
Zelaya as everyone else stated should be the president of Honduras because he was elected by the people of the country. The fact that Zelaya wants to change the constitution does not come to much of a surprise to me. Should he be allowed? I think that constitutions are old documents and were put together within the time frame it was written therefore it does not really apply to modern day. Presidents should be allowed to IMPROVE the constitution for the better of the people and the country.
Both can be wrong and right in some areas. But I feel that whatever is right for the people whatever the people ask should be done.
I go by the opinion that Zelaya was trying to change the contrition because he wants Honduras to progress, and I understand that being re-elected to become president is illegal there but is it wrong for a man to believe in his country and change the constitution to better his country? I honestly think he should have gone through with it, because I have yet to see someone to step up and do something improve Honduras conditions.
Maybe I got the wrong ideas from the videos, as well as the articles, but I got the impression that the people were rioting because they wanted Zelaya for another term, not because the people didn't want him as many are saying in this blog. Yes, the law states that Zelaya can no longer run for another term as president, but what if he is truly trying to bring change to the country. FDR was president for more than the 2 terms and even though back then there was no law stopping presidents from running for more than 2 terms in the United States, FDR had a vision and a plan in mind for the United States. Zelaya may just have that same vision that FDR had they made him run for 4 terms. Why stop him now? Now if he was a European from a country such as France, Belgium, or even Spain, would we be having this discussion of why the government in Honduras is trying to prevent Zelaya from running for another term. Is it just because Honduras is seen as a "third world country"? Just something to think about...
I believe that certain things happen for a reason. In Zelaya case i don't believe that he should be granted another term. Within in the time that he was in power many people died and wrongful things were done.Even though constitutions are written for a reason, we must also remember the values and ethics in which these constitutions were written under and for whom it was written for. I do not think that it was right in any way for them to have taken Zelaya out of his term because he openly stated that he wanted to run for another term. Change is necessary and the only things that is constant.
Both Zelaya and Micheletti seem to be in the wrong here. What Zelaya was trying to do, change the constitution, is illegal. Michelleti came to power illegal, not through an election but the coup de etat. It dosen't matter who's right wing and who's leftist, both performed dictator-like (illegal) moves and neither should be eligible to rule after this term is over.
ReplyDeleteI believe that human behavior dictates our actions. The U.S interest, is to have Chavez and Zeleya's power diminished and gone. Zeleya clearly wants the constitution changed for his own benefit, even though he is claiming it would not affect his president term. Why would a man extend the term limit if he was not going to use it himself? what incentive could he possibly have to extend the term limit, unless he was going to use it himself somehow or retain power by creating loopholes in the constitution and manipulating laws such as Putin did in order to be the legitimate power. As for Michelleti, he clearly saw that Zeleya would have been successful in the referendum, acting on his self interest and supported the ousting of Zeleya in order to gain his power. The main point is people lose sight that self human interest and incentives play a big role in their decision making. I just watched chavez's interview on Larry King, and he brought up very valid points. One of his points was calling out the U.S on its nuclear arsenal and international terrorism as King was asking him about his nuclear ambitions. Chavez replied " the U.S has a large amount of nuclear arms, why does it not destroy them. Also, the U.S was the only nation to use its nuclear arms". Calling the U.S a hypocritical nation demanding policy from others and not being accountable for their own actions.
ReplyDeleteIt is of interest to note that the interim government, headed by micheletti, attempted pass a "decree alloweing the government to shut down broadcasters and ban unauthorized public meetings, and let the police detain suspects without warrants." (new york times, 9/29/09) This is not surprising, what comes as a real surprise is the fact that the honduran congress refused to allow these restrictions to take effect. Micheletti publicly apologized. Apparently, not all vestige of human rights have been abandoned in the near dictatorial status of the interim government of Honduras.
ReplyDeleteConstitutions are old, valuable documents, but nonetheless old! Serving one term may not be enough for Zelaya to execute his plan on the country.In the United States presidents are allowed 2 terms of service, the people of Nicaragua should be able to at least UPGRADE, not change, their constitution, it should be an option. With the change in society, and the complications that have arisendue to foreign relations, more time aloted to a president's term isnt a bad thing. And although people beleive that Zelaya should not go back to office because of what he will do during the remainder of the term, it is still HIS TIME and he is ENTITLED to it.
ReplyDeleteThe coup of president Zelaya in Honduras and Micheletti's consequent military regime brings to question, for me, what an acceptable dictatorship is in the eyes of Western society? Some dictatorships are,obviously, allowed to exist and are sometime instituted in opposition to an expected dictatorship. Micheletti currently is running a military dictatorship. He deprives his citizens of basic necessities to secure his power, he is subject to intense paranoia in a see of Zelaya supporters and now in control of power he seems unwilling to give it up.The CIA seems to have a form of dictatorship, the head of which can rule for multiple presidential terms, and in light of recent events, can seemingly act without President Obama's knowledge. One must ask why these forms of dictatorship are accepted by the leaders of "society" while a leader who is supported and elected by its populace is deemed as a threat?
ReplyDeleteHonestly I believe that Zelaya is a threat because everything is happening in Honduras because people are rioting against him coming back to power. Zelaya is actually craving for more power thats why he is trying to extend his power. Zelaya has been recognized as a dictator and people fear him in power again. Why would we give a man more power and a longer term so he can have a better chance to rule and hold a absolute monarchy in Honduras. I believe that Zelaya should not become president because he is the reason that people are dying right now in Honduras so why would they put a leader in power that the people hate and will riot against his every move. Zelaya sounds like he is in his beginning stage becoming like the Dominican dictator Trujillo.
ReplyDeleteAs an American idealist would say, and Obama would agree, Zelaya should be in power because indeed he was elected democratically. Yet is the actions taken by Zelaya that have me concerned in thinking that his coming back to power would make things in Honduras worse. For example, as mentioned in class, Zelaya said that he was not trying to be re-elected instead he was just trying to change the constitution. But every rational individual would know that once a person has power they would want to obtain that power for as long as possible. Being that in Honduras you could only be elected once and last five years in that term, it is easy for someone to be tempted to wanting to have more power. Although I believe that Zelaya’s coming back to power, isn’t the best resolution I don’t think that Micheletti would be much of a better choice either. Apparently, there are many that are against Micheletti and believe that his position in power would only be firmer steps towards socialism. The best resolution is that Honduras together as a nation decides what is better for them. In history, they have never protested and they have been a tolerant country, and this wouldn’t be the time to change history. As Oscar David reiterated, “Un país unido jamas sera vencido”, (A country united will never be divided), things should stay that way.
ReplyDeleteIn Honduras people are rioting and tearing down stores and shops as we seen in the video because they fear Zelaya as a dictator and don’t want to see him in power. Zelaya is view as a dictator and his actions also leads us to believe that as he wants to extend his term limit to gain more power. I pose the question of how do the people fear Zelaya coming back in power if they are the ones who are electing him into power?
ReplyDeleteSometimes even the possible could get done. For example, who would have thought that an African American man would be the president of the United States. Zelaya, who is not willing to give up his presidency though it is illegal for him to stay more than 5 years in power, is proving that sometimes the impossible is better. After reading a couple of articles and taking on different points of view, it is clear that people want Zelaya in power. Supporters of Zelaya such as Obama and Chavez, feel that since Zelaya was voted democratically he should continues his term in office. The people of Honduras are also in support of Zelaya and so this makes me think. Here in the United States everyone was in favor for President Obama and look how much great things he has done and so since the people of Honduras are mostly in favor of Zelaya should this be good thing? Although Honduras has been a tolerant country, maybe it is time for a change but I am unsure of Micheletti is the answer to the change it needs.
ReplyDeleteAs of today Honduras is a problem to the community because of what's been happening over there. Like the video we saw in class of the riots and all of the disturbance there was with the people of Honduras because they didnt want to see Zelaya take the lead of a dictor which is very explainable because the people have opinions also. But at the same time if he was elected then why would he want to extend his time when its already time to choose another dictator?
ReplyDeleteZelaya wanted to change the constitution but that does not mean he would run for president again. I think he, in a way, is working towards becoming a dictator because we will never know what would have happened. Micheletti seems to want to protect Honduras, but he might just want to ensure his spot in power. Both people are in the wrong but after watching the videos and discussing the articles, I want to keep up with the current events going on in the world especially with our country. It's kind of shady that Zelaya's plane refueled on a US base before departure and Obama knew nothing about it. We have to be aware of things like this because nothing has happened like this in a long time. I want to learn more about the right wing and left wing movements. This event can shake the world up.
ReplyDeleteZelaya rightfully became president of Honduras in contrast to Micheletti coup de etat. Zelaya wants to change the constitution and many people are afraid that this could prove harmful to Honduras and other nations around it. However, I feel Honduras is in need of change and Zelaya is the man to appoint. Due to the fact that society in gerneral is afraid of change it is understandable why alot of people oppose his potential insurrection as president. Honduras presently is at a state of turmoil as discussed in the articles we read in class and the youtube videos of widescale rioters. Lastly it is amongst the poorest nations in America. Honduras is in need of a new constitution and Zelaya is the man to do it.
ReplyDeleteZelaya as everyone else stated should be the president of Honduras because he was elected by the people of the country. The fact that Zelaya wants to change the constitution does not come to much of a surprise to me. Should he be allowed? I think that constitutions are old documents and were put together within the time frame it was written therefore it does not really apply to modern day. Presidents should be allowed to IMPROVE the constitution for the better of the people and the country.
ReplyDeleteBoth can be wrong and right in some areas. But I feel that whatever is right for the people whatever the people ask should be done.
I go by the opinion that Zelaya was trying to change the contrition because he wants Honduras to progress, and I understand that being re-elected to become president is illegal there but is it wrong for a man to believe in his country and change the constitution to better his country? I honestly think he should have gone through with it, because I have yet to see someone to step up and do something improve Honduras conditions.
ReplyDeleteMaybe I got the wrong ideas from the videos, as well as the articles, but I got the impression that the people were rioting because they wanted Zelaya for another term, not because the people didn't want him as many are saying in this blog. Yes, the law states that Zelaya can no longer run for another term as president, but what if he is truly trying to bring change to the country. FDR was president for more than the 2 terms and even though back then there was no law stopping presidents from running for more than 2 terms in the United States, FDR had a vision and a plan in mind for the United States. Zelaya may just have that same vision that FDR had they made him run for 4 terms. Why stop him now? Now if he was a European from a country such as France, Belgium, or even Spain, would we be having this discussion of why the government in Honduras is trying to prevent Zelaya from running for another term. Is it just because Honduras is seen as a "third world country"? Just something to think about...
ReplyDeleteI believe that certain things happen for a reason. In Zelaya case i don't believe that he should be granted another term. Within in the time that he was in power many people died and wrongful things were done.Even though constitutions are written for a reason, we must also remember the values and ethics in which these constitutions were written under and for whom it was written for. I do not think that it was right in any way for them to have taken Zelaya out of his term because he openly stated that he wanted to run for another term. Change is necessary and the only things that is constant.
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